Spoiled Kids

I think it is so funny how stressed out we get with our spoiled kids,did we not make them that way? When we say you are in trouble or your grounded-we need to stick to it,what good is it to punish them if five minutes later,they can do what they want anyway? Temper tantrums is why alot of kids are so spoiled,if I screamed and cried and carried on like mine do,my father would of beat me silly-but now-a-days if you "spank" your child,it is abuse.So what do you do when your 14 yr old tells you no,i won't go to my room,or shut the hell up or any number of things I hear some kids tell their parents,I guess you just take it? I will be the first to admit:my 7 year old is spoiled rotten-he whines about everything that he don't get,lately he has been telling me no,make me and the like..oh really?  Well,needless to say-that's stopping right quick-HELL NO, I'm thinking I don't think so pal,so he has missed out on a few things for his mouth,the key is to really do what you say your gonna.I can't stand a whiney,fresh mouthed kid,I get so mad when I see these mother's giving their kids what they want to shut them up,or rewarding them for bad behavior-"oh you hit your brother/sister,get in time out-5 minutes later(if that) reward them with a pop,toy or something,well they did say sorry,REALLY? They have no idea what they are in for,trust me,i know first hand.  I'm sorry but if my 7year old tells me shut up,he is getting my finger with hot sauce in his mouth, Abuse? let him tell me shut the f up, then someone can worry about me abusing my child. As kids we got spanked,my father didn't have to but look at me and my ass behaved,I got hit maybe 3-4 times in my life,if you ask me over half the kids in america could use a good old fashion over the knee spanking. Instead let them run around and do whatever they want, kids will never learn their lesson if all you do is yell at them and them reward them. Kids need structure,and crave disipline,you know sometimes kids act out because negative attetion is better than no attention at all.  I am not claiming to be a perfect mother,far from it-I am just giving my opinion from lessons I have learned....the hard way.